Johannine Comma and Angelo Mai - Revision history

Nick at 21:05, 6 June 2026

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	:"Moreover, the very ancient Vatican Codex reproduced in this edition reads only, 'For there are three that bear witness: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three are one.' Thus the celebrated Johannine testimony concerning the three divine Persons is lacking—a fact long known to textual critics. Yet there exists a Greek Vatican manuscript, though not especially ancient, that contains this testimony, which Latin manuscripts have generally preserved with great care. Among these Latin witnesses the oldest is the manuscript of the Monastery of Cava near Salerno, a highly accurate copy of which was placed in the Vatican Library at my recommendation in recent years. I do not argue here for the authenticity of the Johannine Comma, since biblical scholars have long presented every argument in favor of its genuineness. In any case, we do not depend upon the testimony of disciples, for the words of the Master Himself are sufficient: 'Baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.'"		:"Moreover, the very ancient Vatican Codex reproduced in this edition reads only, 'For there are three that bear witness: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three are one.' Thus the celebrated Johannine testimony concerning the three divine Persons is lacking—a fact long known to textual critics. Yet there exists a Greek Vatican manuscript, though not especially ancient, that contains this testimony, which Latin manuscripts have generally preserved with great care. Among these Latin witnesses the oldest is the manuscript of the Monastery of Cava near Salerno, a highly accurate copy of which was placed in the Vatican Library at my recommendation in recent years. I do not argue here for the authenticity of the Johannine Comma, since biblical scholars have long presented every argument in favor of its genuineness. In any case, we do not depend upon the testimony of disciples, for the words of the Master Himself are sufficient: 'Baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.'"

			==See also==
			* [[Johannine Comma]]
			* [[Angelo Mai]]
			* [[Codex Vaticanus]]

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Nick at 21:03, 6 June 2026

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	Cardinal [[Angelo Mai]] said concerning the Comma:		Cardinal [[Angelo Mai]] (1782 – 1854) said concerning the Comma:

	:‘Exin in antiquissimo codice vaticano, quem hac editione repraesentamus, legitur tantum: ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες, τὸ πνεῦμα, καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ, καὶ τὸ αἷμα· καὶ οἱ τρεῖς εἰς τὸ ἕν εἰσιν. Εἰ τὴν μαρτυρίαν etc. Deest igitur celebre Iohannis de divinis tribus personis testimonium, quae res iamdiu criticis nota erat. Ceteroquin unus vaticanus graecus codex haud valde priscus testimonium id exhibet, quod passim latini codices vigilanter conservant, atque in his antiquissimus monasterii Cavensis apud Salernum, cuius fidelissimum apographum, consilio meo, in vaticana bibliotheca his annis collocatum fuit. De Iohannaei testimonii authentia non disputo, quia iamdiu sacri critici omnia pro hac veritate argumenta protulerunt. Ceteroquin discipuli testimonio non indigemus, qui magistri voce satis erudimur baptizate in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti.’ (Maius, Vaticanus 5, p. 318 n. 1:)		:‘Exin in antiquissimo codice vaticano, quem hac editione repraesentamus, legitur tantum: ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες, τὸ πνεῦμα, καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ, καὶ τὸ αἷμα· καὶ οἱ τρεῖς εἰς τὸ ἕν εἰσιν. Εἰ τὴν μαρτυρίαν etc. Deest igitur celebre Iohannis de divinis tribus personis testimonium, quae res iamdiu criticis nota erat. Ceteroquin unus vaticanus graecus codex haud valde priscus testimonium id exhibet, quod passim latini codices vigilanter conservant, atque in his antiquissimus monasterii Cavensis apud Salernum, cuius fidelissimum apographum, consilio meo, in vaticana bibliotheca his annis collocatum fuit. De Iohannaei testimonii authentia non disputo, quia iamdiu sacri critici omnia pro hac veritate argumenta protulerunt. Ceteroquin discipuli testimonio non indigemus, qui magistri voce satis erudimur baptizate in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti.’ (Maius, Vaticanus 5, p. 318 n. 1:)

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	Cardinal [[Angelo Mai]] said concerning the Comma:		Cardinal [[Angelo Mai]] said concerning the Comma:

	:‘Exin in antiquissimo codice vaticano, quem hac editione repraesentamus, legitur tantum: ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες, τὸ πνεῦμα, καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ, καὶ τὸ αἷμα· καὶ οἱ τρεῖς εἰς τὸ ἕν εἰσιν. Εἰ τὴν μαρτυρίαν etc. Deest igitur celebre Iohannis de divinis tribus personis testimonium, quae res iamdiu criticis nota erat. Ceteroquin unus vaticanus graecus codex haud valde priscus testimonium id exhibet, quod passim latini codices vigilanter conservant, atque in his antiquissimus monasterii Cavensis apud Salernum, cuius fidelissimum apographum, consilio meo, in vaticana bibliotheca his annis collocatum fuit. De Iohannaei testimonii authentia non disputo, quia iamdiu sacri critici omnia pro hac veritate argumenta protulerunt. Ceteroquin discipuli testimonio non indigemus, qui magistri voce satis erudimur baptizate in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti.’		:‘Exin in antiquissimo codice vaticano, quem hac editione repraesentamus, legitur tantum: ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες, τὸ πνεῦμα, καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ, καὶ τὸ αἷμα· καὶ οἱ τρεῖς εἰς τὸ ἕν εἰσιν. Εἰ τὴν μαρτυρίαν etc. Deest igitur celebre Iohannis de divinis tribus personis testimonium, quae res iamdiu criticis nota erat. Ceteroquin unus vaticanus graecus codex haud valde priscus testimonium id exhibet, quod passim latini codices vigilanter conservant, atque in his antiquissimus monasterii Cavensis apud Salernum, cuius fidelissimum apographum, consilio meo, in vaticana bibliotheca his annis collocatum fuit. De Iohannaei testimonii authentia non disputo, quia iamdiu sacri critici omnia pro hac veritate argumenta protulerunt. Ceteroquin discipuli testimonio non indigemus, qui magistri voce satis erudimur baptizate in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti.’ (Maius, Vaticanus 5, p. 318 n. 1:)

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Cardinal [[Angelo Mai]] said concerning the Comma:

:‘Exin in antiquissimo codice vaticano, quem hac editione repraesentamus, legitur tantum: ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες, τὸ πνεῦμα, καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ, καὶ τὸ αἷμα· καὶ οἱ τρεῖς εἰς τὸ ἕν εἰσιν. Εἰ τὴν μαρτυρίαν etc. Deest igitur celebre Iohannis de divinis tribus personis testimonium, quae res iamdiu criticis nota erat. Ceteroquin unus vaticanus graecus codex haud valde priscus testimonium id exhibet, quod passim latini codices vigilanter conservant, atque in his antiquissimus monasterii Cavensis apud Salernum, cuius fidelissimum apographum, consilio meo, in vaticana bibliotheca his annis collocatum fuit. De Iohannaei testimonii authentia non disputo, quia iamdiu sacri critici omnia pro hac veritate argumenta protulerunt. Ceteroquin discipuli testimonio non indigemus, qui magistri voce satis erudimur baptizate in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti.’

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:"Moreover, the very ancient Vatican Codex reproduced in this edition reads only, 'For there are three that bear witness: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three are one.' Thus the celebrated Johannine testimony concerning the three divine Persons is lacking—a fact long known to textual critics. Yet there exists a Greek Vatican manuscript, though not especially ancient, that contains this testimony, which Latin manuscripts have generally preserved with great care. Among these Latin witnesses the oldest is the manuscript of the Monastery of Cava near Salerno, a highly accurate copy of which was placed in the Vatican Library at my recommendation in recent years. I do not argue here for the authenticity of the Johannine Comma, since biblical scholars have long presented every argument in favor of its genuineness. In any case, we do not depend upon the testimony of disciples, for the words of the Master Himself are sufficient: 'Baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.'"

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