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Desiderius Erasmus

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	* [[1516 AD\|1516]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 1st [[Novum Instrumentum omne]])		* [[1516 AD\|1516]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 1st [[Novum Instrumentum omne]])
	* [[1519 AD\|1519]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 2nd)		* [[1519 AD\|1519]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 2nd)
	* [[1522 AD\|1522]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 3rd [[Novum Testamentum omne]])		* [[1522 AD\|1522]] ὅτι τρεῖς ἐισιν ὁι μαρτυροῦντες ἑν τῷ ὁυρανῷ, πατὴρ, λόγος, καὶ πνεῦμα ἅγιου, καὶ οὗτοι ὁι τρεῖς ἕν ἐισι. καὶ τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες ἕν τῇ γῇ, πνεῦμα, καὶ ὕδωρ, καὶ αἷμα, καὶ οἱ τρεῖς εἰς τὸ ἕν εἰσιν. ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 3rd [[Novum Testamentum omne]])
	* [[1527 AD\|1527]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 4th)		* [[1527 AD\|1527]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 4th)
	* [[1535 AD\|1535]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 5th)		* [[1535 AD\|1535]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 5th)

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Desiderius Erasmus

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	* [[1527 AD\|1527]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 4th)		* [[1527 AD\|1527]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 4th)
	* [[1535 AD\|1535]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 5th)		* [[1535 AD\|1535]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 5th)
			[[Image:Erasmus 1 John 5.7 1522.jpg\|right\|thumb\|x300\|The [[Johannine Comma]] in Erasmus' 1522 Edition[https://www.e-rara.ch/bau_1/content/zoom/1241187].]]

	====Colinæus====		====Colinæus====

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	====[[French]]====		====[[French]]====
	[[Image:1 John 5.7-8. 1644 Giovanni Diodati French.jpg\|thumb\|right\|250px\|<small>1 John 5:7-8 in the [[French]] [[New Testament]] of [[1644 AD\|1644]] of Giovanni Diodati</small>[https://www.e-rara.ch/zut/content/zoom/14703157].]]		[[Image:1 John 5.7-8. 1644 Giovanni Diodati French.jpg\|thumb\|right\|250px\|<small>1 John 5:7-8 in the [[French]] [[New Testament]] of [[1644 AD\|1644]] of Giovanni Diodati</small>[https://www.e-rara.ch/zut/content/zoom/14703157].]]
	* [[1644 AD\|1644]] Aussi y en at-il trois qui tesmoignent en la terre; l’Esprit, & l’eau, & le sang: & ces trois se rapportent a cette chose vnique-là.<small>([[Giovanni Diodati]])</small>		* [[1644 AD\|1644]] Aussi y en at-il trois qui tesmoignent en la terre; l’Esprit, & l’eau, & le sang: & ces trois se rapportent a cette chose vnique-là. <small>([[Giovanni Diodati]])</small>
	* L'Esprit, et l'eau, et le sang, et les trois sont d'accord pour un même témoignage. (French Darby)		* L'Esprit, et l'eau, et le sang, et les trois sont d'accord pour un même témoignage. (French Darby)
	* [[1744 AD\|1744]] Il y en a aussi trois qui rendent témoignage sur la terre, savoir l'Esprit, l'eau, et le Sang; et ces trois-là se rapportent à un. (Martin 1744)		* [[1744 AD\|1744]] Il y en a aussi trois qui rendent témoignage sur la terre, savoir l'Esprit, l'eau, et le Sang; et ces trois-là se rapportent à un. (Martin 1744)

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	====[[French]]====		====[[French]]====
			[[Image:1 John 5.7-8. 1644 Giovanni Diodati French.jpg\|thumb\|right\|250px\|<small>1 John 5:7-8 in the [[French]] [[New Testament]] of [[1644 AD\|1644]] of Giovanni Diodati</small>[https://www.e-rara.ch/zut/content/zoom/14703157].]]
			* [[1644 AD\|1644]] Aussi y en at-il trois qui tesmoignent en la terre; l’Esprit, & l’eau, & le sang: & ces trois se rapportent a cette chose vnique-là.<small>([[Giovanni Diodati]])</small>
	* L'Esprit, et l'eau, et le sang, et les trois sont d'accord pour un même témoignage. (French Darby)		* L'Esprit, et l'eau, et le sang, et les trois sont d'accord pour un même témoignage. (French Darby)
	* [[1744 AD\|1744]] Il y en a aussi trois qui rendent témoignage sur la terre, savoir l'Esprit, l'eau, et le Sang; et ces trois-là se rapportent à un. (Martin 1744)		* [[1744 AD\|1744]] Il y en a aussi trois qui rendent témoignage sur la terre, savoir l'Esprit, l'eau, et le Sang; et ces trois-là se rapportent à un. (Martin 1744)
	* [[1744 AD\|1744]] Il y en a aussi trois qui rendent témoignage sur la terre; l'Esprit, l'eau, et le sang; et ces trois-là se rapportent à une seule chose. (Ostervald 1744)		* [[1744 AD\|1744]] Il y en a aussi trois qui rendent témoignage sur la terre; l'Esprit, l'eau, et le sang; et ces trois-là se rapportent à une seule chose. (Ostervald 1744)
			* [[2006 AD\|2006]] Et il y en a trois qui rendent témoignage sur la terre, l’Esprit, et l’eau et le sang: et ces trois s’accordent en un seul. ([[King James Française]])

	====[[German]]====		====[[German]]====

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Elzevir

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	====Elzevir====		====Elzevir====
			[[Image:1_John_5_8_Elzevir_1633.JPG\|300px\|thumb\|right\|[[1 John 5:8]] in the [[1633 AD\|1633]] Greek New Testament of the Elzevir family]]
	* [[1624 AD\|1624]] (Elzevir)		* [[1624 AD\|1624]] (Elzevir)
	* [[1633 AD\|1633]] (Elzevir)		* [[1633 AD\|1633]] (Elzevir)

Nick at 03:00, 9 March 2021

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	{{Template:Verses in 1 John 5}}		{{Template:Verses in 1 John 5}}
	~~:''See also [[Johannine Comma]]'', ''[[Index of Johannine Comma articles]]'', & ''[[1 John 5:7]]''.~~

	<center><< - [[1 John 5:7]] - [[1 John 5:9]] - >></center>		<center><< - [[1 John 5:7]] - [[1 John 5:9]] - >></center>

			:''See also [[Johannine Comma]]'', ''[[Index of Johannine Comma articles]]'', & ''[[1 John 5:7]]''.

	* '''[[1 John 5:8 Greek NT: Beza's Textus Receptus (1598)\|ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ Α΄ 5:8]]''' [[2532\|καὶ]] [[5140\|τρεῖς]] [[1510\|εἰσιν]] [[3588\|οἱ]] [[3140\|μαρτυροῦντες]] [[1722\|ἕν]] [[3588\|τῇ]] [[1093\|γῇ]], [[3588\|τὸ]] [[4151\|πνεῦμα]], [[2532\|καὶ]] [[3588\|τὸ]] [[2532\|ὕδωρ]], [[2532\|καὶ]] [[3588\|τὸ]] [[129\|αἷμα]]· [[2532\|καὶ]] [[3588\|οἱ]] [[5140\|τρεῖς]] [[1519\|εἰς]] [[3588\|τὸ]] [[1520\|ἕν]] [[1526\|εἰσὶν]].		* '''[[1 John 5:8 Greek NT: Beza's Textus Receptus (1598)\|ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ Α΄ 5:8]]''' [[2532\|καὶ]] [[5140\|τρεῖς]] [[1510\|εἰσιν]] [[3588\|οἱ]] [[3140\|μαρτυροῦντες]] [[1722\|ἕν]] [[3588\|τῇ]] [[1093\|γῇ]], [[3588\|τὸ]] [[4151\|πνεῦμα]], [[2532\|καὶ]] [[3588\|τὸ]] [[2532\|ὕδωρ]], [[2532\|καὶ]] [[3588\|τὸ]] [[129\|αἷμα]]· [[2532\|καὶ]] [[3588\|οἱ]] [[5140\|τρεῖς]] [[1519\|εἰς]] [[3588\|τὸ]] [[1520\|ἕν]] [[1526\|εἰσὶν]].

Nick at 03:00, 9 March 2021

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	{{Template:Verses in 1 John 5}}		{{Template:Verses in 1 John 5}}
	:''See also [[Johannine Comma]]'', ''[[Index of Johannine Comma articles]]'', & ''[[1 John 5:8]]''.		:''See also [[Johannine Comma]]'', ''[[Index of Johannine Comma articles]]'', & ''[[1 John 5:7]]''.

	<center><< - [[1 John 5:7]] - [[1 John 5:9]] - >></center>		<center><< - [[1 John 5:7]] - [[1 John 5:9]] - >></center>

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	:''See also [[Johannine Comma]]''		:''See also [[Johannine Comma]]'', ''[[Index of Johannine Comma articles]]'', & ''[[1 John 5:8]]''.

			<center><< - [[1 John 5:7]] - [[1 John 5:9]] - >></center>

	* '''[[1 John 5:8 Greek NT: Beza's Textus Receptus (1598)\|ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ Α΄ 5:8]]''' [[2532\|καὶ]] [[5140\|τρεῖς]] [[1510\|εἰσιν]] [[3588\|οἱ]] [[3140\|μαρτυροῦντες]] [[1722\|ἕν]] [[3588\|τῇ]] [[1093\|γῇ]], [[3588\|τὸ]] [[4151\|πνεῦμα]], [[2532\|καὶ]] [[3588\|τὸ]] [[2532\|ὕδωρ]], [[2532\|καὶ]] [[3588\|τὸ]] [[129\|αἷμα]]· [[2532\|καὶ]] [[3588\|οἱ]] [[5140\|τρεῖς]] [[1519\|εἰς]] [[3588\|τὸ]] [[1520\|ἕν]] [[1526\|εἰσὶν]].		* '''[[1 John 5:8 Greek NT: Beza's Textus Receptus (1598)\|ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ Α΄ 5:8]]''' [[2532\|καὶ]] [[5140\|τρεῖς]] [[1510\|εἰσιν]] [[3588\|οἱ]] [[3140\|μαρτυροῦντες]] [[1722\|ἕν]] [[3588\|τῇ]] [[1093\|γῇ]], [[3588\|τὸ]] [[4151\|πνεῦμα]], [[2532\|καὶ]] [[3588\|τὸ]] [[2532\|ὕδωρ]], [[2532\|καὶ]] [[3588\|τὸ]] [[129\|αἷμα]]· [[2532\|καὶ]] [[3588\|οἱ]] [[5140\|τρεῖς]] [[1519\|εἰς]] [[3588\|τὸ]] [[1520\|ἕν]] [[1526\|εἰσὶν]].

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Commentary

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	Some editions of the [[King James Version]] have “spirit” not “Spirit” here. The [[Pure Cambridge Edition]] of the [[KJV]] has “spirit” here with the “s” in lowercase. [[Theodore Beza\|Beza]]'s [[1598 AD\|1598]] Latin and Vulgate both capitalize the “S.”		Some editions of the [[King James Version]] have “spirit” not “Spirit” here. The [[Pure Cambridge Edition]] of the [[KJV]] has “spirit” here with the “s” in lowercase. [[Theodore Beza\|Beza]]'s [[1598 AD\|1598]] Latin and Vulgate both capitalize the “S.”

	===Bible Protector===		=====Bible Protector=====
	Bible Protector (Matthew Verschuur), pointed out that it is incorrect to imply that the word "spirit" indicates the human spirit. The word spirit lower case still indicates the work of the Holy Ghost into the human spirit. Some examples of God's work called "spirit":		Bible Protector (Matthew Verschuur), pointed out that it is incorrect to imply that the word "spirit" indicates the human spirit. The word spirit lower case still indicates the work of the Holy Ghost into the human spirit. Some examples of God's work called "spirit":

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	* [[1 John 4:6]] We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the '''<u>spirit</u>''' of truth, and the spirit of error.		* [[1 John 4:6]] We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the '''<u>spirit</u>''' of truth, and the spirit of error.

	===Cambridge University Press===		=====Cambridge University Press=====
	[[image:CambridgeLetter.jpg\|px300\|thumb\|Cambridge University Press]]		[[image:CambridgeLetter.jpg\|px300\|thumb\|Cambridge University Press]]
	Jerry L. Hooper of Cambridge University Press in 1985 claimed the small "s" was a print error in previous KJV editions. Mr Hooper is in error to assume that this is just a modern print error. [http://www.localchurchbiblepublishers.com/wp-content/uploads/CambridgeLetter.pdf]		Jerry L. Hooper of Cambridge University Press in 1985 claimed the small "s" was a print error in previous KJV editions. Mr Hooper is in error to assume that this is just a modern print error. [http://www.localchurchbiblepublishers.com/wp-content/uploads/CambridgeLetter.pdf]

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The capital "S" vs the small "s"

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	====The capital "S" vs the small "s"====		====The capital "S" vs the small "s"====
	Some editions of the [[King James Version]] have “spirit” not “Spirit” here. The [[Pure Cambridge Edition]] of the [[KJV]] has “spirit” here with the “s” in lowercase. [[Theodore Beza\|Beza]]'s [[1598 AD\|1598]] Latin and ~~Vugate~~ both capitalize the “S.”		Some editions of the [[King James Version]] have “spirit” not “Spirit” here. The [[Pure Cambridge Edition]] of the [[KJV]] has “spirit” here with the “s” in lowercase. [[Theodore Beza\|Beza]]'s [[1598 AD\|1598]] Latin and Vulgate both capitalize the “S.”

	It is incorrect to imply that the word "spirit" indicates the human spirit. The word spirit lower case still indicates the work of the Holy Ghost into the human spirit. Some examples of God's work called "spirit":		===Bible Protector===
			Bible Protector (Matthew Verschuur), pointed out that it is incorrect to imply that the word "spirit" indicates the human spirit. The word spirit lower case still indicates the work of the Holy Ghost into the human spirit. Some examples of God's work called "spirit":

	* [[1 Corinthians 2:12]] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.		* [[1 Corinthians 2:12]] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the '''<u>spirit</u>''' which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
	* [[2 Corinthians 3:6]] Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.		* [[2 Corinthians 3:6]] Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the '''<u>spirit</u>''': for the letter killeth, but the '''<u>spirit</u>''' giveth life.
	* [[1 John 4:6]]		* [[1 John 4:6]] We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the '''<u>spirit</u>''' of truth, and the spirit of error.

			===Cambridge University Press===
	[[image:CambridgeLetter.jpg\|px300\|thumb\|Cambridge University Press]]		[[image:CambridgeLetter.jpg\|px300\|thumb\|Cambridge University Press]]
	Jerry L. Hooper of Cambridge University Press in 1985 claimed the small "s" was a print error in previous KJV editions. Mr Hooper is in error to assume that this is just a modern print error. [http://www.localchurchbiblepublishers.com/wp-content/uploads/CambridgeLetter.pdf]		Jerry L. Hooper of Cambridge University Press in 1985 claimed the small "s" was a print error in previous KJV editions. Mr Hooper is in error to assume that this is just a modern print error. [http://www.localchurchbiblepublishers.com/wp-content/uploads/CambridgeLetter.pdf]

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	* [[1516 AD\|1516]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 1st [[Novum Instrumentum omne]])		* [[1516 AD\|1516]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 1st [[Novum Instrumentum omne]])
	* [[1519 AD\|1519]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 2nd)		* [[1519 AD\|1519]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 2nd)
	* [[1522 AD\|1522]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 3rd [[Novum Testamentum omne]])		* [[1522 AD\|1522]] ὅτι τρεῖς ἐισιν ὁι μαρτυροῦντες ἑν τῷ ὁυρανῷ, πατὴρ, λόγος, καὶ πνεῦμα ἅγιου, καὶ οὗτοι ὁι τρεῖς ἕν ἐισι. καὶ τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες ἕν τῇ γῇ, πνεῦμα, καὶ ὕδωρ, καὶ αἷμα, καὶ οἱ τρεῖς εἰς τὸ ἕν εἰσιν. ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 3rd [[Novum Testamentum omne]])
	* [[1527 AD\|1527]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 4th)		* [[1527 AD\|1527]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 4th)
	* [[1535 AD\|1535]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 5th)		* [[1535 AD\|1535]] ([[Desiderius Erasmus\|Erasmus]] 5th)