1 John 5:7 - Revision history

Nick at 10:17, 23 July 2026

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	Pseudo-Chrysostom first refers to the Trinity as Father, Word, and Spirit and then switches to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in the same sentence. This switch has no contextual reason. Given the abundance of scriptural allusions in this passage, it is most likely that the two forms of the Trinity are both scriptural allusions (Matthew 28:19 & 1 John 5:7).		Pseudo-Chrysostom first refers to the Trinity as Father, Word, and Spirit and then switches to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in the same sentence. This switch has no contextual reason. Given the abundance of scriptural allusions in this passage, it is most likely that the two forms of the Trinity are both scriptural allusions (Matthew 28:19 & 1 John 5:7).

	Info from KJV Today.		Info from [https://www.kjvtoday.net KJV Today].

	====Ignatius of Antioch====		====Ignatius of Antioch====

Nick: /* Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica) */

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Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)

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	====[[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]]====		====[[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]]====
	[[Image:stunica on 1 John 5.7.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica) wrote a half page response to Erasmus concerning the Comma in 1520[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=UN5JAAAAcAAJ&lpg=PP115&ots=4jFvm_YexC&dq=Vetus%20tralatio.%20Quoniam%20tres%20sunt%2C%20qui%20testimonium%20dant%20in&pg=PP115#v=onepage&q&f=false].]]		[[Image:stunica on 1 John 5.7.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica) wrote a half page response to Erasmus concerning the Comma in 1520[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=UN5JAAAAcAAJ&lpg=PP115&ots=4jFvm_YexC&dq=Vetus%20tralatio.%20Quoniam%20tres%20sunt%2C%20qui%20testimonium%20dant%20in&pg=PP115#v=onepage&q&f=false].]]

			:''See also: [[Johannine Comma and Stunica]]''

	In [[1520 AD\|1520]], [[Complutensian Polyglot]] editor [[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]] wrote a half page response to [[Erasmus]] concerning the Comma.		In [[1520 AD\|1520]], [[Complutensian Polyglot]] editor [[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]] wrote a half page response to [[Erasmus]] concerning the Comma.

Nick at 11:28, 14 July 2026

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	====Jerome's Vulgate====		====Jerome's Vulgate====

			:''See also [[Johannine Comma and Jerome]]''

	Jerome (382 A.D.) in his book, ‘Prologue to the Canonical Epistles’, quotes the following when discussing the Johannine Comma that,		Jerome (382 A.D.) in his book, ‘Prologue to the Canonical Epistles’, quotes the following when discussing the Johannine Comma that,
	:‘…irresponsible translators left out this testimony in the Greek codices.’		:‘…irresponsible translators left out this testimony in the Greek codices.’

Nick: /* Priscillian */

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Priscillian

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	====[[Priscillian]]====		====[[Priscillian]]====
	In [[380 AD]] in Spain [[Priscillian]] (or one of his associates) referred to the Comma:		In [[380 AD]] in Spain [[Priscillian]] (or one of his associates) referred to the Comma:

			:“Tria sunt quae testimonium dicunt in terra: aqua caro et sanguis et haec tria in unum sunt. Et tria sunt quae testimonium dicent '''<u>in caelo: Pater Verbum et Spiritus et haec tria unum sunt</u>''' in Christo Iesu.” <small>[Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. xviii, p. 6.]</small>

			Translated as:

	:“There are three that bear witness on earth: the water, in the flesh, and the blood: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness '''<u>in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Spirit, and these three are one</u>''' in Christ Jesus.”		:“There are three that bear witness on earth: the water, in the flesh, and the blood: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness '''<u>in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Spirit, and these three are one</u>''' in Christ Jesus.”
	:“Tria sunt quae testimonium dicunt in terra: aqua caro et sanguis et haec tria in unum sunt. Et tria sunt quae testimonium dicent '''<u>in caelo: Pater Verbum et Spiritus et haec tria unum sunt</u>''' in Christo Iesu.” <sup>[Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. xviii, p. 6.]</sup>

	The earthly witnesses mentioned here have the “flesh” in place of the usual reading of “spirit” (Spirit) in the [[Textus Receptus]].		The earthly witnesses mentioned here have the “flesh” in place of the usual reading of “spirit” (Spirit) in the [[Textus Receptus]].[https://baptistsearch.blogspot.com/2021/03/priscillian-of-avila-and-johannine-comma.html]

	====Jerome's Vulgate====		====Jerome's Vulgate====

Nick: /* Potamius of Lisbon */

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Potamius of Lisbon

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 ====Potamius of Lisbon====
+:''See Main Article: [[Johannine Comma and Potamius of Lisbon]]''
 ====Basil====

Nick: /* Basil */

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Basil

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 :Factum est hoc, hem quid ais? si Altissimus poenam illatae famulo injuriae a sorore Prophetide repoposcit, eo quod minus aeque de ipso sensisset, quis iniquam de Filio Majestatis congitationem cum impunitatis spe suscipiat? quisve non vereatur illum, a quo genitus est, ignem consumentem, unde emicant fulgura, et linguae flammantes, cui si protervi isti Scrutatores componantur, festuca minima res et levissima sunt; cuique in promptu est disceptatores et contensiosos quasi stipulas et vepres concremare. Poenam tulit similem Giezius, qui Prophetam illudere conatus, ipse egregie illusus fuit, cum magistrum vellet capere, captus est. Subdoli Scrutatores vulgo imponere volunt, quo et ipse trinis nominibus baptizare volunt : trium testium consona testificatione judicia constant, tres hic audis testes, quorum testimonio omnis dirimitur quaestio. Jam eritne aliquis, qui sanctissimos sui baptismi testes habeat suspectos? <small>Table of Contents read: Eighty Rythms upon the Faith, against the Disputers. [adv. Scrut.] (t. iii. p. 1) Eighty Rhythms upon the Faith, against the Disputers, 28:7, translated into English by Rev. J. B. Morris, Select Works of S. Ephrem the Syrian (Oxford:, 1847)</small>[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=ngtFAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA247&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false]
 ====Basil====
-The Comma and Matthew 28:19 mentioned concerning Basil in 350 AD in Adversus Eunomium Book V : Paris 1839 p.446-447
+The Comma and [[Matthew 28:19]] mentioned concerning Basil in [[350 AD]] in Adversus Eunomium Book V: Paris 1839 p.446-447
 :446. Ταῖς θείαις γραφαῖς ἐναντιούμενοι· τί δὲ

Nick: /* Bullinger */

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Bullinger

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	====Bullinger====		====Bullinger====
	:“Quidam multis hic agunt de unitate trinitatis, sed non in loco suo.		In 1549, Bullinger said:
	Nihil enim hic agit de unitate trinitatis, quæ alibi commodius & firmius inducitur & comprobatur. Nam illud membrum, quod quędam insertum habent exemplaria (quoniam tres sunt qui testimonium dant, in cœlo pater, sermo & spiritus sanctus, & hi treis unum sunt) è margine uidetur irrepsisse. Annotauit id forsan sciolus aliquis, qui non uidit aqua significari cœlestem doctrinam, sanguine redemptionem, & spiritu uirtutem & administrationem diuinam. Fecit itaque ex aqua patrem, eo quod ex aqua omnia generari dicantur: ex sanguine filium, eo quod sanguinem fuderit: sed ex spiritu personam spiritus sancti. Verum plura huius generis annotata sunt & ab Erasmo in eruditissimis illis suis in nouum testamentum Annotationibus.”		:“Quidam multis hic agunt de unitate trinitatis, sed non in loco suo. Nihil enim hic agit de unitate trinitatis, quæ alibi commodius & firmius inducitur & comprobatur. Nam illud membrum, quod quędam insertum habent exemplaria (quoniam tres sunt qui testimonium dant, in cœlo pater, sermo & spiritus sanctus, & hi treis unum sunt) è margine uidetur irrepsisse. Annotauit id forsan sciolus aliquis, qui non uidit aqua significari cœlestem doctrinam, sanguine redemptionem, & spiritu uirtutem & administrationem diuinam. Fecit itaque ex aqua patrem, eo quod ex aqua omnia generari dicantur: ex sanguine filium, eo quod sanguinem fuderit: sed ex spiritu personam spiritus sancti. Verum plura huius generis annotata sunt & ab Erasmo in eruditissimis illis suis in nouum testamentum Annotationibus.”
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	“Some here speak much of the unity of the Trinity, but not in its place.		“Some here speak much of the unity of the Trinity, but not in its place. For it does not speak here of the unity of the Trinity, which is more conveniently and firmly introduced and proved elsewhere. For that member, which some examples have inserted (because there are three who bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one) seems to have crept in from the margin. Perhaps some wise man noted this, who did not see that water signified heavenly doctrine, blood redemption, and spirit divine power and administration. He therefore made the Father out of water, because all things are said to be generated out of water: the Son out of blood, because he shed blood: but the Person of the Holy Spirit out of spirit. But many other things of this kind have been noted by Erasmus in his most learned of his New Testament Annotations.”
	For it does not speak here of the unity of the Trinity, which is more conveniently and firmly introduced and proved elsewhere. For that member, which some examples have inserted (because there are three who bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one) seems to have crept in from the margin. Perhaps some wise man noted this, who did not see that water signified heavenly doctrine, blood redemption, and spirit divine power and administration. He therefore made the Father out of water, because all things are said to be generated out of water: the Son out of blood, because he shed blood: but the Person of the Holy Spirit out of spirit. But many other things of this kind have been noted by Erasmus in his most learned of his New Testament Annotations.”

	====Tesfa Seyon====		====Tesfa Seyon====

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Codex Wizanburgensis

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	550 AD The "Speculum" has it [The Speculum is a treatise that contains some good Old Latin scriptures.]		550 AD The "Speculum" has it [The Speculum is a treatise that contains some good Old Latin scriptures.]

	====[[~~Codex Guelferbytanus 99 Weissenburgensis\|~~Codex Wizanburgensis]]====		====[[Codex Wizanburgensis]]====
	[[image:1 John 5.7 Cod. Guelf. 99 Weiss..jpg\|thumb\|300px\|right\|1 John 5.7 Cod. Guelf. 99 Weiss.		[[image:1 John 5.7 Cod. Guelf. 99 Weiss..jpg\|thumb\|300px\|right\|1 John 5.7 Cod. Guelf. 99 Weiss.
	Et spiritus est veritas quia tres sunt qui testimonium dant		Et spiritus est veritas quia tres sunt qui testimonium dant

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Codex Guelferbytanus 99 Weissenburgensis

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	550 AD The "Speculum" has it [The Speculum is a treatise that contains some good Old Latin scriptures.]		550 AD The "Speculum" has it [The Speculum is a treatise that contains some good Old Latin scriptures.]

	====[[~~Codex Wizanburgensis\|~~Codex Guelferbytanus 99 Weissenburgensis]]====		====[[Codex Guelferbytanus 99 Weissenburgensis\|Codex Wizanburgensis]]====
	[[image:1 John 5.7 Cod. Guelf. 99 Weiss..jpg\|thumb\|300px\|right\|1 John 5.7 Cod. Guelf. 99 Weiss.		[[image:1 John 5.7 Cod. Guelf. 99 Weiss..jpg\|thumb\|300px\|right\|1 John 5.7 Cod. Guelf. 99 Weiss.
	Et spiritus est veritas quia tres sunt qui testimonium dant		Et spiritus est veritas quia tres sunt qui testimonium dant

Nick: /* Codex Guelferbytanus 99 Weissenburgensis */

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Codex Guelferbytanus 99 Weissenburgensis

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	550 AD The "Speculum" has it [The Speculum is a treatise that contains some good Old Latin scriptures.]		550 AD The "Speculum" has it [The Speculum is a treatise that contains some good Old Latin scriptures.]

	====Codex Guelferbytanus 99 Weissenburgensis====		====[[Codex Wizanburgensis\|Codex Guelferbytanus 99 Weissenburgensis]]====
	[[image:1 John 5.7 Cod. Guelf. 99 Weiss..jpg\|thumb\|300px\|right\|1 John 5.7 Cod. Guelf. 99 Weiss.		[[image:1 John 5.7 Cod. Guelf. 99 Weiss..jpg\|thumb\|300px\|right\|1 John 5.7 Cod. Guelf. 99 Weiss.
	Et spiritus est veritas quia tres sunt qui testimonium dant		Et spiritus est veritas quia tres sunt qui testimonium dant

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	====[[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]]====		====[[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]]====
	[[Image:stunica on 1 John 5.7.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica) wrote a half page response to Erasmus concerning the Comma in 1520[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=UN5JAAAAcAAJ&lpg=PP115&ots=4jFvm_YexC&dq=Vetus%20tralatio.%20Quoniam%20tres%20sunt%2C%20qui%20testimonium%20dant%20in&pg=PP115#v=onepage&q&f=false].]]		[[Image:stunica on 1 John 5.7.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica) wrote a half page response to Erasmus concerning the Comma in 1520[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=UN5JAAAAcAAJ&lpg=PP115&ots=4jFvm_YexC&dq=Vetus%20tralatio.%20Quoniam%20tres%20sunt%2C%20qui%20testimonium%20dant%20in&pg=PP115#v=onepage&q&f=false].]]

			:''See also: [[Johannine Comma and Stunica]]''

	In [[1520 AD\|1520]], [[Complutensian Polyglot]] editor [[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]] wrote a half page response to [[Erasmus]] concerning the Comma.		In [[1520 AD\|1520]], [[Complutensian Polyglot]] editor [[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]] wrote a half page response to [[Erasmus]] concerning the Comma.