2 Peter 1:1 - Revision history

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Nick — Sat, 05 Jul 2025 13:04:26 GMT

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	Even a basic cursory look at English versions actually based upon the [[1550 AD\|1550]] text, would show these differences, or at least generate some curiosity in James as to why there was a difference.		Even a basic cursory look at English versions actually based upon the [[1550 AD\|1550]] text, would show these differences, or at least generate some curiosity in James as to why there was a difference.

-	* [[1535 AD\|1535]] of oure God, and Sauioure Iesus Christ. (Coverdale Bible) - ~~Stephanus~~ based	+	* [[1535 AD\|1535]] of oure God, and Sauioure Iesus Christ. (Coverdale Bible) - Erasmus based
	* [[1560 AD\|1560]] of our God and Sauiour Iesus Christ: (Geneva Bible) - Stephanus based		* [[1560 AD\|1560]] of our God and Sauiour Iesus Christ: (Geneva Bible) - Stephanus based
	* [[1611 AD\|1611]] of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: (King James Version) - Beza based		* [[1611 AD\|1611]] of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: (King James Version) - Beza based

Nick at 10:25, 9 January 2017

Nick — Mon, 09 Jan 2017 10:25:22 GMT

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-	* '''[[2 Peter 1:1 ~~(TRV)~~\|2 Peter 1:1]]''' Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ:	+	* '''[[2 Peter 1:1 King James Version 2016\|2 Peter 1:1]]''' Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ:

	{{King James Version 2016 Edition}}		{{King James Version 2016 Edition}}

Nick: /* Greek */

Nick — Tue, 03 Jan 2017 11:42:48 GMT

Greek

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	===Greek===		===Greek===
-	[[Image:2_Peter_1_1_Beza_1598.JPG\|thumb\|right\|250px\|<small>~~Matthew~~ 1:1 in Beza's [[1598 AD\|1598]] Greek New Testament</small>]]	+	[[Image:2_Peter_1_1_Beza_1598.JPG\|thumb\|right\|250px\|<small>2 Peter 1:1 in Beza's [[1598 AD\|1598]] Greek New Testament</small>]]

	==References==		==References==

Nick at 08:54, 12 August 2016

Nick — Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:54:28 GMT

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-	* '''[[2 Peter 1:1 (TRV)\|2 Peter 1:1]]''' Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our ~~Saviour~~ Jesus Christ:	+	* '''[[2 Peter 1:1 (TRV)\|2 Peter 1:1]]''' Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ:

	{{King James Version 2016 Edition}}		{{King James Version 2016 Edition}}
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	==Interlinear==		==Interlinear==
	==Commentary==		==Commentary==

Nick at 08:53, 12 August 2016

Nick — Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:53:25 GMT

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	* '''[[2 Peter 1:1 Greek NT: Beza's Textus Receptus (1598)\|ΠΕΤΡΟΥ Β΄ 1:1]]''' ΣΥΜΕΩʹΝ Πέτρος δοῦλος καὶ ἀπόστολος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, τοῖς ἰσότιμον ἡμῖν λαχοῦσι πίστιν ἐν δικαιοσύνῃ τοῦ θεοῦ ἡμῶν καὶ σωτῆρος ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ•		* '''[[2 Peter 1:1 Greek NT: Beza's Textus Receptus (1598)\|ΠΕΤΡΟΥ Β΄ 1:1]]''' ΣΥΜΕΩʹΝ Πέτρος δοῦλος καὶ ἀπόστολος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, τοῖς ἰσότιμον ἡμῖν λαχοῦσι πίστιν ἐν δικαιοσύνῃ τοῦ θεοῦ ἡμῶν καὶ σωτῆρος ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ•

-	{{~~Template:~~ Textus Receptus 1598 Footer}}	+	{{Textus Receptus 1598 Footer}}

	* '''2 Peter 1:1''' Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:		* '''2 Peter 1:1''' Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

-	{{~~Template:~~ King James Version Pure Cambridge Edition Footer}}	+	{{King James Version Pure Cambridge Edition Footer}}

	* '''[[2 Peter 1:1 (TRV)\|2 Peter 1:1]]''' Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:		* '''[[2 Peter 1:1 (TRV)\|2 Peter 1:1]]''' Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

-	{{~~Template: English Textus Receptus~~ Version ~~Footer~~}}	+	{{King James Version 2016 Edition}}
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-	~~[[Image:2_Peter_1_1_Beza_1598.JPG\|thumb\|right\|250px\|<small>Matthew 1:1 in Beza's [[1598 AD\|1598]] Greek New Testament</small>]]~~	+

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	Granville Penn also points out that it would be very simple to write "our God and Saviour Jesus Christ" directly in the Greek, without a convoluted and hidden to the reader grammatical construction. This is another type of fundamental point that is a bit too difficult for today's atomistic seminarians. (Steven Avery) [http://www.purebibleforum.com/showthread.php?t=50 Pure Bible Forums]		Granville Penn also points out that it would be very simple to write "our God and Saviour Jesus Christ" directly in the Greek, without a convoluted and hidden to the reader grammatical construction. This is another type of fundamental point that is a bit too difficult for today's atomistic seminarians. (Steven Avery) [http://www.purebibleforum.com/showthread.php?t=50 Pure Bible Forums]
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		+	===Greek===
		+	[[Image:2_Peter_1_1_Beza_1598.JPG\|thumb\|right\|250px\|<small>Matthew 1:1 in Beza's [[1598 AD\|1598]] Greek New Testament</small>]]

	==References==		==References==

Nick: /* Granville Penn */

Nick — Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:51:45 GMT

Granville Penn

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	:... This is not a question of doctrine, but of true and correct interpretation. A forced and artful interpretation can administer no lasting support to doctrine; but casts on it a suspicious character, by the manifest violence exercised to defend it. The doctrine, which those zealous commentators were anxious to confirm by their joint efforts on this text, needed not those exertions; since it pervades the whole Gospel-Covenant, and constitutes its entire foundation. Precipitate and ill-considered advocacy, acts hostilely to every cause. In this verse, the sacred writer meant to convey the sense to which our revisers (whose orthodoxy cannot be questioned) have been guided by Erasmus, viz. "the justification of our God, and "of our Saviour J. C." [http://books.google.com/books?id=S80tAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA455]		:... This is not a question of doctrine, but of true and correct interpretation. A forced and artful interpretation can administer no lasting support to doctrine; but casts on it a suspicious character, by the manifest violence exercised to defend it. The doctrine, which those zealous commentators were anxious to confirm by their joint efforts on this text, needed not those exertions; since it pervades the whole Gospel-Covenant, and constitutes its entire foundation. Precipitate and ill-considered advocacy, acts hostilely to every cause. In this verse, the sacred writer meant to convey the sense to which our revisers (whose orthodoxy cannot be questioned) have been guided by Erasmus, viz. "the justification of our God, and "of our Saviour J. C." [http://books.google.com/books?id=S80tAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA455]

-	Granville Penn also points out that it would be very simple to write "our God and Saviour Jesus Christ" directly in the Greek, without a convoluted and hidden to the reader grammatical construction. This is another type of fundamental point that is a bit too difficult for today's atomistic seminarians. (Steven Avery)	+	Granville Penn also points out that it would be very simple to write "our God and Saviour Jesus Christ" directly in the Greek, without a convoluted and hidden to the reader grammatical construction. This is another type of fundamental point that is a bit too difficult for today's atomistic seminarians. (Steven Avery) [http://www.purebibleforum.com/showthread.php?t=50 Pure Bible Forums]

	==References==		==References==

Nick: /* The Granville Sharp Rule */

Nick — Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:50:15 GMT

The Granville Sharp Rule

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	* [[Galatians 1:4]] reads: Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will '''of God and our Father'''."		* [[Galatians 1:4]] reads: Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will '''of God and our Father'''."
-	* [[~~Phillipians~~ 4:20]] Now '''unto God and our Father''' be glory for ever and ever. Amen.	+	* [[Philippians 4:20]] Now '''unto God and our Father''' be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
	* [[1 Thessalonians 1:3]] we read, "Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight '''of God and our Father'''."		* [[1 Thessalonians 1:3]] we read, "Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight '''of God and our Father'''."

Nick: /* Granville Penn */

Nick — Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:49:46 GMT

Granville Penn

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	:The "masterly note (says Bloomfield) in justification of the rendering, 'our God and Saviour,' by Bp. Middleton, proves, that the passage is plainly and unequivocally to be understood as an assumption, that Jesus Christ 'is our God and Saviour.'". ... This proffered division of Erasmus, our revisers accepted from his authority, and chose the latter alternative. It is now to be inquired, whether they were justified in so doing. Though the import insisted on by those earnest commentators is, no doubt, doctrinally true, yet, the true construction of the passage does not rest on that truth of doctrine, but on soundness of interpretation. Let us, therefore, review this form of association, in the several places where it occurs in other places.		:The "masterly note (says Bloomfield) in justification of the rendering, 'our God and Saviour,' by Bp. Middleton, proves, that the passage is plainly and unequivocally to be understood as an assumption, that Jesus Christ 'is our God and Saviour.'". ... This proffered division of Erasmus, our revisers accepted from his authority, and chose the latter alternative. It is now to be inquired, whether they were justified in so doing. Though the import insisted on by those earnest commentators is, no doubt, doctrinally true, yet, the true construction of the passage does not rest on that truth of doctrine, but on soundness of interpretation. Let us, therefore, review this form of association, in the several places where it occurs in other places.

-	[[Image:Granville Penn on sharp.jpg\|~~left~~]]	+	[[Image:Granville Penn on sharp.jpg\|center]]
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Nick — Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:49:23 GMT

Granville Penn

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	:... This is not a question of doctrine, but of true and correct interpretation. A forced and artful interpretation can administer no lasting support to doctrine; but casts on it a suspicious character, by the manifest violence exercised to defend it. The doctrine, which those zealous commentators were anxious to confirm by their joint efforts on this text, needed not those exertions; since it pervades the whole Gospel-Covenant, and constitutes its entire foundation. Precipitate and ill-considered advocacy, acts hostilely to every cause. In this verse, the sacred writer meant to convey the sense to which our revisers (whose orthodoxy cannot be questioned) have been guided by Erasmus, viz. "the justification of our God, and "of our Saviour J. C." [http://books.google.com/books?id=S80tAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA455]		:... This is not a question of doctrine, but of true and correct interpretation. A forced and artful interpretation can administer no lasting support to doctrine; but casts on it a suspicious character, by the manifest violence exercised to defend it. The doctrine, which those zealous commentators were anxious to confirm by their joint efforts on this text, needed not those exertions; since it pervades the whole Gospel-Covenant, and constitutes its entire foundation. Precipitate and ill-considered advocacy, acts hostilely to every cause. In this verse, the sacred writer meant to convey the sense to which our revisers (whose orthodoxy cannot be questioned) have been guided by Erasmus, viz. "the justification of our God, and "of our Saviour J. C." [http://books.google.com/books?id=S80tAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA455]

Nick: /* Granville Penn */

Nick — Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:47:44 GMT

Granville Penn

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	===Granville Penn===		===Granville Penn===
-	Annotations to the Book of the New Covenant: With an Expository Preface Granville Penn	+	Steven Avery points to the Annotations to the Book of the New Covenant: With an Expository Preface Granville Penn

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		+	:... This is not a question of doctrine, but of true and correct interpretation. A forced and artful interpretation can administer no lasting support to doctrine; but casts on it a suspicious character, by the manifest violence exercised to defend it. The doctrine, which those zealous commentators were anxious to confirm by their joint efforts on this text, needed not those exertions; since it pervades the whole Gospel-Covenant, and constitutes its entire foundation. Precipitate and ill-considered advocacy, acts hostilely to every cause. In this verse, the sacred writer meant to convey the sense to which our revisers (whose orthodoxy cannot be questioned) have been guided by Erasmus, viz. "the justification of our God, and "of our Saviour J. C." [http://books.google.com/books?id=S80tAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA455]

-		+	Granville Penn also points out that it would be very simple to write "our God and Saviour Jesus Christ" directly in the Greek, without a convoluted and hidden to the reader grammatical construction. This is another type of fundamental point that is a bit too difficult for today's atomistic seminarians. (Steven Avery)
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-	~~[http://books~~.~~google~~.~~com/books?id=S80tAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA455]~~	+

	==References==		==References==

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	Even a basic cursory look at English versions actually based upon the [[1550 AD\|1550]] text, would show these differences, or at least generate some curiosity in James as to why there was a difference.		Even a basic cursory look at English versions actually based upon the [[1550 AD\|1550]] text, would show these differences, or at least generate some curiosity in James as to why there was a difference.

-	* [[1535 AD\|1535]] of oure God, and Sauioure Iesus Christ. (Coverdale Bible) - ~~Stephanus~~ based	+	* [[1535 AD\|1535]] of oure God, and Sauioure Iesus Christ. (Coverdale Bible) - Erasmus based
	* [[1560 AD\|1560]] of our God and Sauiour Iesus Christ: (Geneva Bible) - Stephanus based		* [[1560 AD\|1560]] of our God and Sauiour Iesus Christ: (Geneva Bible) - Stephanus based
	* [[1611 AD\|1611]] of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: (King James Version) - Beza based		* [[1611 AD\|1611]] of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: (King James Version) - Beza based