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	Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, '''<u>that being dead</u>''', wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.		Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, '''<u>that being dead</u>''', wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

	This refers to the contextual analogy of the husband having died, and the wife can be married to another. The law died and was put to death by Christ who blotted out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross. Col.2:14. Here the TR of the KJB reads apothanont<u>os</u> masculine singular. The law died. This is the reading of Greens interlinear,the 21st Century KJB, Websters Bible of 1833, the Geneva Bible, the Modern Greek translation, Youngs translation, the Diodati, which preceded the KJB, and the Latin of Calvin. So it is a very ancient reading. The other Greek texts have a different reading. They say we died apothanont<u>es</u>, which is masculine plural. The truth that we died is also taught in other passages, but not in this one. The [[NKJV]] joins the [[~~Nasb~~]] and [[NIV]] in saying: We have been delivered from the law, '''<u>having died</u>''' to what we were held by...		This refers to the contextual analogy of the husband having died, and the wife can be married to another. The law died and was put to death by Christ who blotted out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross. Col.2:14. Here the TR of the KJB reads apothanont<u>os</u> masculine singular. The law died. This is the reading of Greens interlinear,the 21st Century KJB, Websters Bible of 1833, the Geneva Bible, the Modern Greek translation, Youngs translation, the Diodati, which preceded the KJB, and the Latin of Calvin. So it is a very ancient reading. The other Greek texts have a different reading. They say we died apothanont<u>es</u>, which is masculine plural. The truth that we died is also taught in other passages, but not in this one. The [[NKJV]] joins the [[NASB]] and [[NIV]] in saying: We have been delivered from the law, '''<u>having died</u>''' to what we were held by...

	===KJV Today===		===KJV Today===

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	* [[1894 AD\|1894]] ~~(? ????? ???T???)~~		* [[1894 AD\|1894]] νυνὶ δὲ κατηργήθημεν ἀπὸ τοῦ νόμου, ἀποθανόντος ἐν ᾧ κατειχόμεθα, ὥστε δουλεύειν ἡμᾶς ἐν καινότητι πνεύματος, καὶ οὐ παλαιότητι γράμματος.

	====Other Greek====		====Other Greek====

	* [[1857 AD\|1857]] (Tregelles' Greek New Testament)		* [[1857 AD\|1857]] (Tregelles' Greek New Testament)
	* (Tischendorf 8th Ed.)		* νυνὶ δὲ κατηργήθημεν ἀπὸ τοῦ νόμου, ἀποθανόντες ἐν ᾧ κατειχόμεθα, ὥστε δουλεύειν ἡμᾶς ἐν καινότητι πνεύματος καὶ οὐ παλαιότητι γράμματος. (Tischendorf 8th Ed.)
	* [[1881 AD\|1881]] (Westcott & Hort)		* [[1881 AD\|1881]] νυνὶ δὲ κατηργήθημεν ἀπὸ τοῦ νόμου, ἀποθανόντες ἐν ᾧ κατειχόμεθα, ὥστε δουλεύειν ἡμᾶς ἐν καινότητι πνεύματος καὶ οὐ παλαιότητι γράμματος. (Westcott & Hort)
	* (Greek orthodox Church)		* [[1904 AD\|1904]] νυνὶ δὲ κατηργήθημεν ἀπὸ τοῦ νόμου, ἀποθανόντες ἐν ᾧ κατειχόμεθα, ὥστε δουλεύειν ἡμᾶς ἐν καινότητι πνεύματος καὶ οὐ παλαιότητι γράμματος. (Greek orthodox Church)
			* [[1904 AD\|1904]] νυνὶ δὲ κατηργήθημεν ἀπὸ τοῦ νόμου, ἀποθανόντες ἐν ᾧ κατειχόμεθα, ὥστε δουλεύειν ἡμᾶς ἐν καινότητι πνεύματος καὶ οὐ παλαιότητι γράμματος. (Nestle)

	==Anglo Saxon Translations==		==Anglo Saxon Translations==

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	* ''' Romans 7:6 ''' [[1161\|But]] [[3570\|now]] [[2673\|we are delivered]] [[575\|from]] [[3588\|the]] [[3551\|law]], [[599\|that being dead]] ~~wherein~~ [[2722\|we were held]]; [[5620\|that]] [[2248\|we]] [[1398\|should serve]] [[1722\|in]] [[2538\|newness]] [[4151\|of spirit]], [[2532\|and]] [[3756\|not]] ''in'' [[3821\|the oldness]] [[1121\|of the letter]].		* ''' Romans 7:6 ''' [[1161\|But]] [[3570\|now]] [[2673\|we are delivered]] [[575\|from]] [[3588\|the]] [[3551\|law]], [[599\|that being dead]] [[3739\|where]][[1722\|in]] [[2722\|we were held]]; [[5620\|that]] [[2248\|we]] [[1398\|should serve]] [[1722\|in]] [[2538\|newness]] [[4151\|of spirit]], [[2532\|and]] [[3756\|not]] ''in'' [[3821\|the oldness]] [[1121\|of the letter]].

	{{King James Version Pure Cambridge Edition Footer}}		{{King James Version Pure Cambridge Edition Footer}}

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	* ''' Romans 7:6 ''' But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.		* ''' Romans 7:6 ''' [[1161\|But]] [[3570\|now]] [[2673\|we are delivered]] [[575\|from]] [[3588\|the]] [[3551\|law]], [[599\|that being dead]] wherein [[2722\|we were held]]; [[5620\|that]] [[2248\|we]] [[1398\|should serve]] [[1722\|in]] [[2538\|newness]] [[4151\|of spirit]], [[2532\|and]] [[3756\|not]] ''in'' [[3821\|the oldness]] [[1121\|of the letter]].

	{{King James Version Pure Cambridge Edition Footer}}		{{King James Version Pure Cambridge Edition Footer}}

	* '''[[ Romans 7:6 King James Version 2016\|Romans 7:6]]''' But now we have been delivered from the law, that which we were held by being dead, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.		* '''[[Romans 7:6 King James Version 2016\|Romans 7:6]]''' [[1161\|But]] [[3570\|now]] [[2673\|we have been delivered]] [[575\|from]] [[3588\|the]] [[3551\|law]], [[599\|that]] [[3739\|which]] [[2722\|we were held]] [[1722\|by]] [[599\|being dead]], [[5620\|so that]] [[2248\|we]] [[1398\|should serve]] [[1722\|in]] [[2538\|the newness]] [[4151\|of the Spirit]] [[2532\|and]] [[3756\|not]] ''in'' [[3821\|the oldness]] [[1121\|of the letter]].

	{{King James Version 2016 Edition}}		{{King James Version 2016 Edition}}

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	==Commentary==		==Commentary==
	~~Beza~~'~~s textual conjecture:~~ 'that being dead ~~wherein~~' ~~instead of~~ '~~being dead to~~ that ~~wherein"~~		Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, '''<u>that being dead</u>''', wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

	~~From~~ KJV Today:		This refers to the contextual analogy of the husband having died, and the wife can be married to another. The law died and was put to death by Christ who blotted out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross. Col.2:14. Here the TR of the KJB reads apothanont<u>os</u> masculine singular. The law died. This is the reading of Greens interlinear,the 21st Century KJB, Websters Bible of 1833, the Geneva Bible, the Modern Greek translation, Youngs translation, the Diodati, which preceded the KJB, and the Latin of Calvin. So it is a very ancient reading. The other Greek texts have a different reading. They say we died apothanont<u>es</u>, which is masculine plural. The truth that we died is also taught in other passages, but not in this one. The [[NKJV]] joins the [[Nasb]] and [[NIV]] in saying: We have been delivered from the law, '''<u>having died</u>''' to what we were held by...

			===KJV Today===

			:Beza's textual conjecture: 'that being dead wherein' instead of 'being dead to that wherein"

	:Some say that the KJV translators followed Beza’s contentious Greek reading of αποθανοντος to make the verse say that the “law,” rather than “us,” died. The English of the KJV, however, is constructed in such a way that allows both interpretations: "we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter." Since there is no subject number agreement in English as there is in the Greek, "that being dead" can modify either "we" or the "law."[http://www.kjvtoday.com/home/-or--in-romans-76]		:Some say that the KJV translators followed Beza’s contentious Greek reading of αποθανοντος to make the verse say that the “law,” rather than “us,” died. The English of the KJV, however, is constructed in such a way that allows both interpretations: "we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter." Since there is no subject number agreement in English as there is in the Greek, "that being dead" can modify either "we" or the "law."[http://www.kjvtoday.com/home/-or--in-romans-76]

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	* '''[[Romans 7:6 Greek NT: Beza's Textus Receptus (1598)\|ΠΡΟΣ ΡΩΜΑΙΟΥΣ 7:6]]''' [[3570\|Νυνὶ]] [[1161\|δὲ]] [[2673\|κατηργήθημεν]] [[575\|ἀπὸ]] [[3588\|τοῦ]] [[3551\|νόμου]], [[Romans 7:ἀποθανόντος\|ἀποθανόντος]] [[1722\|ἐν]] [[3739\|ᾧ]] [[Romans 7:κατειχόμεθα\|κατειχόμεθα]]· [[5620\|ὥστε]] [[1398\|δουλεύειν]] [[2248\|ἡμᾶς]] [[1722\|ἐν]] [[2538\|καινότητι]] [[4151\|πνεύματος]], [[2532\|καὶ]] [[3756\|οὐ]] [[3821\|παλαιότητι]] [[1121\|γράμματος]].		* '''[[Romans 7:6 Greek NT: Beza's Textus Receptus (1598)\|ΠΡΟΣ ΡΩΜΑΙΟΥΣ 7:6]]''' [[3570\|Νυνὶ]] [[1161\|δὲ]] [[2673\|κατηργήθημεν]] [[575\|ἀπὸ]] [[3588\|τοῦ]] [[3551\|νόμου]], [[Romans 7:ἀποθανόντος\|ἀποθανόντος]] [[1722\|ἐν]] [[3739\|ᾧ]] [[Romans 7:κατειχόμεθα\|κατειχόμεθα]]· [[5620\|ὥστε]] [[1398\|δουλεύειν]] [[2248\|ἡμᾶς]] [[1722\|ἐν]] [[2538\|καινότητι]] [[4151\|πνεύματος]], [[2532\|καὶ]] [[3756\|οὐ]] [[3821\|παλαιότητι]] [[1121\|γράμματος]].

	~~<small>''([[~~Textus Receptus (1598~~)\|Textus Receptus]], [[Theodore Beza]], [[1598 AD\|1598]])''</small>~~		{{Textus Receptus 1598 Footer}}

	* ''' Romans 7:6 ''' But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.		* ''' Romans 7:6 ''' But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

	~~<small>''([[~~King James Version~~]], [[~~Pure Cambridge Edition~~]] [[1900 AD\|1900]])''</small>~~		{{King James Version Pure Cambridge Edition Footer}}

	* '''[[ Romans 7:6 King James Version 2016\|Romans 7:6]]''' But now we have been delivered from the law, that which we were held by being dead, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.		* '''[[ Romans 7:6 King James Version 2016\|Romans 7:6]]''' But now we have been delivered from the law, that which we were held by being dead, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

	~~<small>''([[~~King James Version 2016~~]])''</small>~~		{{King James Version 2016 Edition}}

	==Interlinear==		==Interlinear==

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	''See Also [[~~Matthew 1~~:1 Beza 1598]] ([[Theodore Beza\|Beza]])''		''See Also [[Romans 7:6 Beza 1598]] ([[Theodore Beza\|Beza]])''
	* [[1604 AD\|1604]] (Beza Octavo 5th)		* [[1604 AD\|1604]] (Beza Octavo 5th)

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	<small>''([[King James Version]], [[Pure Cambridge Edition]] [[1900 AD\|1900]])''</small>		<small>''([[King James Version]], [[Pure Cambridge Edition]] [[1900 AD\|1900]])''</small>

	* '''[[ Romans 7:6 ~~(TRV)~~\|Romans 7:6]]''' But now we have been delivered from the law, ~~having died to what~~ we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.		* '''[[ Romans 7:6 King James Version 2016\|Romans 7:6]]''' But now we have been delivered from the law, that which we were held by being dead, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

	<small>''([[~~Textus Receptus~~ Version]])''</small>		<small>''([[King James Version 2016]])''</small>

	==Interlinear==		==Interlinear==

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	* [http://www.kjvtoday.com/home/-or--in-romans-76 “αποθανοντος” or “αποθανοντες” in Romans 7:6?] by [[KJV Today]]		* [http://www.kjvtoday.com/home/-or--in-romans-76 “αποθανοντος” or “αποθανοντες” in Romans 7:6?] by [[KJV Today]]

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	Beza's textual conjecture: 'that being dead wherein' instead of 'being dead to that wherein"		Beza's textual conjecture: 'that being dead wherein' instead of 'being dead to that wherein"

			From KJV Today:

			:Some say that the KJV translators followed Beza’s contentious Greek reading of αποθανοντος to make the verse say that the “law,” rather than “us,” died. The English of the KJV, however, is constructed in such a way that allows both interpretations: "we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter." Since there is no subject number agreement in English as there is in the Greek, "that being dead" can modify either "we" or the "law."[http://www.kjvtoday.com/home/-or--in-romans-76]

	==Greek==		==Greek==

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	''See Also [[~~Matthew 1~~:1 Beza 1598]] ([[Theodore Beza\|Beza]])''		''See Also [[Romans 7:6 Beza 1598]] ([[Theodore Beza\|Beza]])''
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