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	Formally titled ''The Holy Bible from Ancient Eastern Manuscripts'', the '''''Lamsa Bible''''' (which it is commonly called, after its editor, [[George M. Lamsa]]) first appeared in 1933. It was derived, both [[Old Testament\|Old]] and [[New Testament]]s, from the [[Syriac language\|Syriac]] [[Peshitta]], the [[Bible]] used by the [[Assyrian Church of the East]] and other [[Syriac Christianity\|Syriac Christian]] traditions.		Formally titled ''The Holy Bible from Ancient Eastern Manuscripts'', the '''''Lamsa Bible''''' (which it is commonly called, after its editor, [[George M. Lamsa]]) first appeared in 1933. It was derived, both [[Old Testament\|Old]] and [[New Testament]]s, from the [[Syriac language\|Syriac]] [[Peshitta]], the [[Bible]] used by the [[Assyrian Church of the East]] and other [[Syriac Christianity\|Syriac Christian]] traditions.

	Lamsa claimed [[Aramaic primacy]], against the academic mainstream opinion of the origin of [[New Testament]] texts, and thus claimed his translation was superior to texts based on older Greek manuscripts. Lamsa's translation technique was highly criticised by academics when the book was first published.<~~ref~~>[http://www.jstor.org/view/08852758/ap050087/05a00110/0?frame=noframe&userID=a301b4a3@ox.ac.uk/01cce4405e00501b90bbf&dpi=3&config=jstor Review of Lamsa's translation by Herbert G May, Journal of Bible and Religion, Vol. 26, No. 4, Oct., 1958 (JSTOR)]</~~ref~~><~~ref~~>[~~http://www.jstor.org/view/00424935/ap050030/05a00080/0 Review of Lamsa's translation by PAH de Boer, Vetus Testamentum, Vol. 8, Fasc. 2, Apr., 1958 (JSTOR)~~]</~~ref~~> Translating difficult passages in the Peshitta, Lamsa appears to fall back on the English [[King James Version of the Bible]].		Lamsa claimed [[Aramaic primacy]], against the academic mainstream opinion of the origin of [[New Testament]] texts, and thus claimed his translation was superior to texts based on older Greek manuscripts. Lamsa's translation technique was highly criticised by academics when the book was first published.<sup>[]</sup><sup>[]</sup> Translating difficult passages in the Peshitta, Lamsa appears to fall back on the English [[King James Version of the Bible]].

	The Peshitta, like the various [[English language]] Bibles, was translated from earlier [[Koine Greek\|Greek]] and [[Hebrew language\|Hebrew]] manuscripts. The New Testament translators of the King James Version, for example, used an edition of [[Erasmus]]' Greek [[Textus Receptus]]. However, a minority argue for [[Aramaic primacy]] of the New Testament text.		The Peshitta, like the various [[English language]] Bibles, was translated from earlier [[Koine Greek\|Greek]] and [[Hebrew language\|Hebrew]] manuscripts. The New Testament translators of the King James Version, for example, used an edition of [[Erasmus]]' Greek [[Textus Receptus]]. However, a minority argue for [[Aramaic primacy]] of the New Testament text.
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	Some places in the Lamsa Bible differ greatly from other English-language Bibles. The most controversial of the Bible's rendering is in [[Gospel of Matthew\|Matthew]].		Some places in the Lamsa Bible differ greatly from other English-language Bibles. The most controversial of the Bible's rendering is in [[Gospel of Matthew\|Matthew]].

	~~bibleref\|~~Matthew\|27:46 is rendered in the KJV:		[[Matthew 27:46]] is rendered in the [[KJV]]:

	<blockquote>		<blockquote>
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	In contrast, ~~bibleref\|~~Matthew\|27:46 is rendered in the Lamsa Bible:		In contrast, [[Matthew 27:46]] is rendered in the Lamsa Bible:

	<blockquote>		<blockquote>
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	</blockquote>		</blockquote>

	The text of this verse in the Peshitta in Syriac<~~ref~~>~~cite book\|title=lang\|syr\|ܟܬܒܐ ܩܕܝܫܐ ܗ ܟܬܒܐ ܕܕܝܬܩܐ ܥܬܝܩܬܐ ܘܢܝܕܬܐ\|date=1979\|publisher=United Bible Societies\|page=41 (NT)~~</~~ref~~> reads:		The text of this verse in the Peshitta in Syriac<sup>[]</sup> reads:

	<blockquote>		<blockquote>
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	As can be seen, the Peshitta conflates the words spoken by Jesus and their translation, as given in the earlier Greek manuscripts, into a single line. The Greek word lang\|el\|σαβαχθανι (''sabachthani'') is a reasonable [[transliteration]] of the Aramaic lang\|arc\|שבקתני (''unicode\|šḇaqtan(î)'', where the final ''î'' was not pronounced in all varieties). This word appears exactly the same, lang\|syr\|ܫܒܩܬܢܝ (''unicode\|šḇaqtan(î)''), in the Peshitta. The root lang\|syr\|ܫܒܩ has the basic meaning of 'to leave, go away, leave behind, allow, send away, forgive, desert, forsake'.<~~ref~~>cite book\|last=Payne Smith\|first=Jessie\|title=A Compendious Syriac Dictionary: Founded upon the Thesaurus Syriacus by R. Payne Smith\|origdate=1903\|date=1998\|publisher=Eisenbrauns\|location=Winona Lake, Indiana, USA\|isbn=1-57506-032-9\|page=557</~~ref~~>		As can be seen, the Peshitta conflates the words spoken by Jesus and their translation, as given in the earlier Greek manuscripts, into a single line. The Greek word lang\|el\|σαβαχθανι (''sabachthani'') is a reasonable [[transliteration]] of the Aramaic lang\|arc\|שבקתני (''unicode\|šḇaqtan(î)'', where the final ''î'' was not pronounced in all varieties). This word appears exactly the same, lang\|syr\|ܫܒܩܬܢܝ (''unicode\|šḇaqtan(î)''), in the Peshitta. The root lang\|syr\|ܫܒܩ has the basic meaning of 'to leave, go away, leave behind, allow, send away, forgive, desert, forsake'.<sup>[]</sup>

	See the discussions in [[George Lamsa]] and [[Words of Jesus on the cross]], section "Eli Eli lema sabachthani".		See the discussions in [[George Lamsa]] and [[Words of Jesus on the cross]], section "Eli Eli lema sabachthani".
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	Some places in the Lamsa Bible differ greatly from other English-language Bibles. The most controversial of the Bible's rendering is in [[Gospel of Matthew\|Matthew]].		Some places in the Lamsa Bible differ greatly from other English-language Bibles. The most controversial of the Bible's rendering is in [[Gospel of Matthew\|Matthew]].

	{{bibleref\|Matthew\|27:46}} is rendered in the KJV:		bibleref\|Matthew\|27:46 is rendered in the KJV:

	<blockquote>		<blockquote>
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	In contrast, {{bibleref\|Matthew\|27:46}} is rendered in the Lamsa Bible:		In contrast, bibleref\|Matthew\|27:46 is rendered in the Lamsa Bible:

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	{{lang\|syr\|ܘܠܐܦ̈ܝ ܬܫܥ ܫܥ̈ܝܢ<br />		lang\|syr\|ܘܠܐܦ̈ܝ ܬܫܥ ܫܥ̈ܝܢ<br />
	ܩܥܐ ܝܫܘܥ ܒܩܠܐ ܪܡܐ ܘܐܡܪ<br />		ܩܥܐ ܝܫܘܥ ܒܩܠܐ ܪܡܐ ܘܐܡܪ<br />
	ܐܝܠ ܐܝܠ ܠܡܢܐ ܫܒܩܬܢܝ}}		ܐܝܠ ܐܝܠ ܠܡܢܐ ܫܒܩܬܢܝ
	</blockquote>		</blockquote>

	As can be seen, the Peshitta conflates the words spoken by Jesus and their translation, as given in the earlier Greek manuscripts, into a single line. The Greek word lang\|el\|σαβαχθανι (''sabachthani'') is a reasonable [[transliteration]] of the Aramaic {{lang\|arc\|שבקתני}} (''unicode\|šḇaqtan(î)'', where the final ''î'' was not pronounced in all varieties). This word appears exactly the same, {{lang\|syr\|ܫܒܩܬܢܝ}} (''unicode\|šḇaqtan(î)''), in the Peshitta. The root {{lang\|syr\|ܫܒܩ}} has the basic meaning of 'to leave, go away, leave behind, allow, send away, forgive, desert, forsake'.<ref>cite book\|last=Payne Smith\|first=Jessie\|title=A Compendious Syriac Dictionary: Founded upon the Thesaurus Syriacus by R. Payne Smith\|origdate=1903\|date=1998\|publisher=Eisenbrauns\|location=Winona Lake, Indiana, USA\|isbn=1-57506-032-9\|page=557</ref>		As can be seen, the Peshitta conflates the words spoken by Jesus and their translation, as given in the earlier Greek manuscripts, into a single line. The Greek word lang\|el\|σαβαχθανι (''sabachthani'') is a reasonable [[transliteration]] of the Aramaic lang\|arc\|שבקתני (''unicode\|šḇaqtan(î)'', where the final ''î'' was not pronounced in all varieties). This word appears exactly the same, lang\|syr\|ܫܒܩܬܢܝ (''unicode\|šḇaqtan(î)''), in the Peshitta. The root lang\|syr\|ܫܒܩ has the basic meaning of 'to leave, go away, leave behind, allow, send away, forgive, desert, forsake'.<ref>cite book\|last=Payne Smith\|first=Jessie\|title=A Compendious Syriac Dictionary: Founded upon the Thesaurus Syriacus by R. Payne Smith\|origdate=1903\|date=1998\|publisher=Eisenbrauns\|location=Winona Lake, Indiana, USA\|isbn=1-57506-032-9\|page=557</ref>

	See the discussions in [[George Lamsa]] and [[Words of Jesus on the cross]], section "Eli Eli lema sabachthani".		See the discussions in [[George Lamsa]] and [[Words of Jesus on the cross]], section "Eli Eli lema sabachthani".
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	==References==		==References==
	{{cite book\|last=Lamsa\|first=George\|title=The Holy Bible from Ancient Eastern Manuscripts\|isbn=0-06-064923-2}}		cite book\|last=Lamsa\|first=George\|title=The Holy Bible from Ancient Eastern Manuscripts\|isbn=0-06-064923-2
	{{reflist}}		reflist

	==External links==		==External links==

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	The text of this verse in the Peshitta in Syriac<ref>{{cite book\|title={{lang\|syr\|ܟܬܒܐ ܩܕܝܫܐ ܗ ܟܬܒܐ ܕܕܝܬܩܐ ܥܬܝܩܬܐ ܘܢܝܕܬܐ}}\|date=1979\|publisher=United Bible Societies\|page=41 (NT)}}</ref> reads:		The text of this verse in the Peshitta in Syriac<ref>cite book\|title=lang\|syr\|ܟܬܒܐ ܩܕܝܫܐ ܗ ܟܬܒܐ ܕܕܝܬܩܐ ܥܬܝܩܬܐ ܘܢܝܕܬܐ\|date=1979\|publisher=United Bible Societies\|page=41 (NT)</ref> reads:

	<blockquote>		<blockquote>
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	</blockquote>		</blockquote>

	As can be seen, the Peshitta conflates the words spoken by Jesus and their translation, as given in the earlier Greek manuscripts, into a single line. The Greek word {{lang\|el\|σαβαχθανι}} (''sabachthani'') is a reasonable [[transliteration]] of the Aramaic {{lang\|arc\|שבקתני}} (''{{unicode\|šḇaqtan(î)}}'', where the final ''î'' was not pronounced in all varieties). This word appears exactly the same, {{lang\|syr\|ܫܒܩܬܢܝ}} (''{{unicode\|šḇaqtan(î)}}''), in the Peshitta. The root {{lang\|syr\|ܫܒܩ}} has the basic meaning of 'to leave, go away, leave behind, allow, send away, forgive, desert, forsake'.<ref>{{cite book\|last=Payne Smith\|first=Jessie\|title=A Compendious Syriac Dictionary: Founded upon the Thesaurus Syriacus by R. Payne Smith\|origdate=1903\|date=1998\|publisher=Eisenbrauns\|location=Winona Lake, Indiana, USA\|isbn=1-57506-032-9\|page=557}}</ref>		As can be seen, the Peshitta conflates the words spoken by Jesus and their translation, as given in the earlier Greek manuscripts, into a single line. The Greek word lang\|el\|σαβαχθανι (''sabachthani'') is a reasonable [[transliteration]] of the Aramaic {{lang\|arc\|שבקתני}} (''unicode\|šḇaqtan(î)'', where the final ''î'' was not pronounced in all varieties). This word appears exactly the same, {{lang\|syr\|ܫܒܩܬܢܝ}} (''unicode\|šḇaqtan(î)''), in the Peshitta. The root {{lang\|syr\|ܫܒܩ}} has the basic meaning of 'to leave, go away, leave behind, allow, send away, forgive, desert, forsake'.<ref>cite book\|last=Payne Smith\|first=Jessie\|title=A Compendious Syriac Dictionary: Founded upon the Thesaurus Syriacus by R. Payne Smith\|origdate=1903\|date=1998\|publisher=Eisenbrauns\|location=Winona Lake, Indiana, USA\|isbn=1-57506-032-9\|page=557</ref>

	See the discussions in [[George Lamsa]] and [[Words of Jesus on the cross]], section "Eli Eli lema sabachthani".		See the discussions in [[George Lamsa]] and [[Words of Jesus on the cross]], section "Eli Eli lema sabachthani".

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	See the discussions in [[George Lamsa]] and [[Words of Jesus on the cross]], section "Eli Eli lema sabachthani".		See the discussions in [[George Lamsa]] and [[Words of Jesus on the cross]], section "Eli Eli lema sabachthani".

			==See Also==
			[[George Lamsa]]

	==References==		==References==

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Formally titled ''The Holy Bible from Ancient Eastern Manuscripts'', the '''''Lamsa Bible''''' (which it is commonly called, after its editor, [[George M. Lamsa]]) first appeared in 1933. It was derived, both [[Old Testament|Old]] and [[New Testament]]s, from the [[Syriac language|Syriac]] [[Peshitta]], the [[Bible]] used by the [[Assyrian Church of the East]] and other [[Syriac Christianity|Syriac Christian]] traditions.

Lamsa claimed [[Aramaic primacy]], against the academic mainstream opinion of the origin of [[New Testament]] texts, and thus claimed his translation was superior to texts based on older Greek manuscripts. Lamsa's translation technique was highly criticised by academics when the book was first published.<ref>[http://www.jstor.org/view/08852758/ap050087/05a00110/0?frame=noframe&userID=a301b4a3@ox.ac.uk/01cce4405e00501b90bbf&dpi=3&config=jstor Review of Lamsa's translation by Herbert G May, Journal of Bible and Religion, Vol. 26, No. 4, Oct., 1958 (JSTOR)]</ref><ref>[http://www.jstor.org/view/00424935/ap050030/05a00080/0 Review of Lamsa's translation by PAH de Boer, Vetus Testamentum, Vol. 8, Fasc. 2, Apr., 1958 (JSTOR)]</ref> Translating difficult passages in the Peshitta, Lamsa appears to fall back on the English [[King James Version of the Bible]].

The Peshitta, like the various [[English language]] Bibles, was translated from earlier [[Koine Greek|Greek]] and [[Hebrew language|Hebrew]] manuscripts. The New Testament translators of the King James Version, for example, used an edition of [[Erasmus]]' Greek [[Textus Receptus]]. However, a minority argue for [[Aramaic primacy]] of the New Testament text.

==Discrepancies==
Some places in the Lamsa Bible differ greatly from other English-language Bibles. The most controversial of the Bible's rendering is in [[Gospel of Matthew|Matthew]].

{{bibleref|Matthew|27:46}} is rendered in the KJV:

<blockquote>
And about the ninth hour 
[[Jesus]] cried with a loud voice, saying, 
Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? 
that is to say, 
My [[God]], my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
</blockquote>

In contrast, {{bibleref|Matthew|27:46}} is rendered in the Lamsa Bible:

<blockquote>
And about the ninth hour, 
Jesus cried out with a loud voice and said, 
Eli, Eli lemana shabakthan! 
My God, my God, for this I was spared!
</blockquote>

The text of this verse in the Peshitta in Syriac<ref>{{cite book|title={{lang|syr|ܟܬܒܐ ܩܕܝܫܐ ܗ ܟܬܒܐ ܕܕܝܬܩܐ ܥܬܝܩܬܐ ܘܢܝܕܬܐ}}|date=1979|publisher=United Bible Societies|page=41 (NT)}}</ref> reads:

<blockquote>
{{lang|syr|ܘܠܐܦ̈ܝ ܬܫܥ ܫܥ̈ܝܢ 
ܩܥܐ ܝܫܘܥ ܒܩܠܐ ܪܡܐ ܘܐܡܪ 
ܐܝܠ ܐܝܠ ܠܡܢܐ ܫܒܩܬܢܝ}}
</blockquote>

As can be seen, the Peshitta conflates the words spoken by Jesus and their translation, as given in the earlier Greek manuscripts, into a single line. The Greek word {{lang|el|σαβαχθανι}} (''sabachthani'') is a reasonable [[transliteration]] of the Aramaic {{lang|arc|שבקתני}} (''{{unicode|šḇaqtan(î)}}'', where the final ''î'' was not pronounced in all varieties). This word appears exactly the same, {{lang|syr|ܫܒܩܬܢܝ}} (''{{unicode|šḇaqtan(î)}}''), in the Peshitta. The root {{lang|syr|ܫܒܩ}} has the basic meaning of 'to leave, go away, leave behind, allow, send away, forgive, desert, forsake'.<ref>{{cite book|last=Payne Smith|first=Jessie|title=A Compendious Syriac Dictionary: Founded upon the Thesaurus Syriacus by R. Payne Smith|origdate=1903|date=1998|publisher=Eisenbrauns|location=Winona Lake, Indiana, USA|isbn=1-57506-032-9|page=557}}</ref>

See the discussions in [[George Lamsa]] and [[Words of Jesus on the cross]], section "Eli Eli lema sabachthani".

==References==
{{cite book|last=Lamsa|first=George|title=The Holy Bible from Ancient Eastern Manuscripts|isbn=0-06-064923-2}}
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.aramaicpeshitta.com/OTtools/LamsaOT.htm Lamsa Old Testament] / [http://www.aramaicpeshitta.com/AramaicNTtools/dr_george_lamsa_bible.htm Lamsa New Testament]

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