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	:"The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men." In the speech of Lycaonia. Paul had preached in Greek, which was understood over all the East, but the native dialect of the Lycaonians was different, and in that they confer together. Called Barnabas, Jupiter. The chief of the gods in the Greek and Roman Pantheon. Barnabas was no doubt a more stately man than Paul, who says that his own "bodily presence was weak and speech contemptible," and there was also a reason why they thought Paul, Mercurius. Mercury was the "interpreter of the gods." His Greek name, Hermes, is the origin of our word Hermeneutics. Paul, eloquent, persuasive, active, was thought to represent the part of Mercury. Then the priest of Jupiter. There was a temple of Jupiter before the gates of the city, with the usual priest, and carried away by their idea, they prepared to offer sacrifices to the gods whom they supposed to have visited them.		:"The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men." In the speech of Lycaonia. Paul had preached in Greek, which was understood over all the East, but the native dialect of the Lycaonians was different, and in that they confer together. Called Barnabas, Jupiter. The chief of the gods in the Greek and Roman Pantheon. Barnabas was no doubt a more stately man than Paul, who says that his own "bodily presence was weak and speech contemptible," and there was also a reason why they thought Paul, Mercurius. Mercury was the "interpreter of the gods." His Greek name, Hermes, is the origin of our word Hermeneutics. Paul, eloquent, persuasive, active, was thought to represent the part of Mercury. Then the priest of Jupiter. There was a temple of Jupiter before the gates of the city, with the usual priest, and carried away by their idea, they prepared to offer sacrifices to the gods whom they supposed to have visited them.

	====Dr. Larry Bednar====:		====Dr. Larry Bednar====
	Dr. Larry Bednar of KJV Textual Technology remarks: "It's said that the Latin terms Jupiter applied to Barnabus and Mercurius applied to Paul by citizens of Lystra in Acts 14:12 of the KJV are erroneous in that they don't truly translate the Greek, and supposedly the Greek names Zeus and Hermes are correct. But those who say this don't seem to realize that in the Greek text, Greek names would be assigned to these false gods, whatever the actual names were in the native language of Lycaonia spoken by these citizens (14:11). No one knows what names were actually used, but the inerrant Greek would be fully equivalent, making it readily possible to derive an English equivalent. Clearly, in an English translation, the names utilized would reflect English culture, and English is far more kindred to the Latin than it is to the Greek. Thus Latin-based names like Jupiter & Mercurius are the ones likely to apply in the KJV, and more likely to be understood by English readers. Indeed Lystra was a city in the Roman empire at this time in history, so the Latin names are the only logical choices. Some theorize that the local language was Greek, but there is no basis for this. [http://www.kjvtextualtechnology.com/essay-12--70-false-criticisms-of-kjv-and-its-basis.php ]		:Dr. Larry Bednar of KJV Textual Technology remarks: "It's said that the Latin terms Jupiter applied to Barnabus and Mercurius applied to Paul by citizens of Lystra in Acts 14:12 of the KJV are erroneous in that they don't truly translate the Greek, and supposedly the Greek names Zeus and Hermes are correct. But those who say this don't seem to realize that in the Greek text, Greek names would be assigned to these false gods, whatever the actual names were in the native language of Lycaonia spoken by these citizens (14:11). No one knows what names were actually used, but the inerrant Greek would be fully equivalent, making it readily possible to derive an English equivalent. Clearly, in an English translation, the names utilized would reflect English culture, and English is far more kindred to the Latin than it is to the Greek. Thus Latin-based names like Jupiter & Mercurius are the ones likely to apply in the KJV, and more likely to be understood by English readers. Indeed Lystra was a city in the Roman empire at this time in history, so the Latin names are the only logical choices. Some theorize that the local language was Greek, but there is no basis for this. [http://www.kjvtextualtechnology.com/essay-12--70-false-criticisms-of-kjv-and-its-basis.php ]

	==Greek==		==Greek==

Nick: /* Jupiter and Mercurius or Zeus and Hermes? */

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Jupiter and Mercurius or Zeus and Hermes?

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 ====Jupiter and Mercurius or Zeus and Hermes?====
-And they called Barnabas, '''<u>Jupiter</u>'''; and Paul, '''<u>Mercurius</u>''', because he was the chief speaker. ([[KJV]])
+:And they called Barnabas, '''<u>Jupiter</u>'''; and Paul, '''<u>Mercurius</u>''', because he was the chief speaker. ([[KJV]])
-Most modern versions translate as ‘Zeus’ for ‘Jupiter’ and ‘Hermes’ for ‘Mercurius’.
+Most modern versions translate as ‘Zeus’ for ‘Jupiter’ and ‘Hermes’ for ‘Mercurius’, such as the RSV, NIV, NASB, NET, the Jehovah Witness New World Translation, the Catholic St. Joseph New American Bible 1979, the Catholic New Jerusalem bible 1985 and the ESV.
-And Barnabas they called ZEUS, and Paul, HERMES, because he was the chief speaker. ([[NKJV]]) 1982
+The Douay Rheims of 1582 and 1950 reads as the KJV:
-Also reading this way are the RSV, NIV, NASB, NET, the Jehovah Witness New World Translation, the Catholic St. Joseph New American Bible 1979, the Catholic New Jerusalem bible 1985 and the ESV.
+The 1968 Jerusalem bible, the 1970 St. Joseph New American Bible and the 1985 New Jerusalem bible all say:
 ==Greek==

Nick: /* Commentary */

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			====Jupiter and Mercurius or Zeus and Hermes?====
			And they called Barnabas, '''<u>Jupiter</u>'''; and Paul, '''<u>Mercurius</u>''', because he was the chief speaker. ([[KJV]])

			Most modern versions translate as ‘Zeus’ for ‘Jupiter’ and ‘Hermes’ for ‘Mercurius’.

			And Barnabas they called ZEUS, and Paul, HERMES, because he was the chief speaker. ([[NKJV]]) 1982

			Also reading this way are the RSV, NIV, NASB, NET, the Jehovah Witness New World Translation, the Catholic St. Joseph New American Bible 1979, the Catholic New Jerusalem bible 1985 and the ESV.

	==Greek==		==Greek==

Nick at 23:11, 12 October 2018

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	* '''Acts 14:12''' And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.		* '''Acts 14:12''' [[5037\|And]] [[2564\|they called]] [[3303\|Barnabas]], [[2203\|Jupiter]]; [[1161\|and]] [[3972\|Paul]], [[2060\|Mercurius]], [[1894\|because]] [[846\|he]] [[2258\|was]] [[3588\|the]] [[2233\|chief]] [[3056\|speaker]].

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	*'''[[Acts 14:12 King James Version 2016\|Acts 14:12]]''' And ~~Barnabas~~ they called Jupiter, and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.		*'''[[Acts 14:12 King James Version 2016\|Acts 14:12]]''' [[5037\|And]] [[2564\|they called]] [[3303\|Barnabas]] [[2203\|Jupiter]], [[1161\|and]] [[3972\|Paul]] [[2060\|Mercurius]], [[1894\|because]] [[846\|he]] [[2258\|was]] [[3588\|the]] [[2233\|chief]] [[3056\|speaker]].

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	*'''[[Acts 14:12 ~~(TRV)~~\|Acts 14:12]]''' And Barnabas they called Jupiter, and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.		*'''[[Acts 14:12 King James Version 2016\|Acts 14:12]]''' And Barnabas they called Jupiter, and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.

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	*'''[[Acts 14:12 (TRV)\|Acts 14:12]]'''		*'''[[Acts 14:12 (TRV)\|Acts 14:12]]''' And Barnabas they called Jupiter, and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.

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	* '''[[Acts 14:12 Greek NT: Beza's Textus Receptus (1598)\|ΠΡΑΞΕΙΣ ΤΩΝ ΑΠΟΣΤΟΛΩΝ 14:12]]'''		* '''[[Acts 14:12 Greek NT: Beza's Textus Receptus (1598)\|ΠΡΑΞΕΙΣ ΤΩΝ ΑΠΟΣΤΟΛΩΝ 14:12]]''' [[2564\|ἐκάλουν]] [[5037\|τε]] [[3588\|τὸν]] [[3303\|μὲν]] [[921\|Βαρνάβαν,]] [[2203\|Δία·]] [[3588\|τὸν]] [[1161\|δὲ]] [[3972\|Παῦλον,]] [[2060\|Ἑρμῆν,]] [[1894\|ἐπειδὴ]] [[846\|αὐτὸς]] [[2258\|ἦν]] [[3588\|ὁ]] [[2233\|ἡγούμενος]] [[3588\|τοῦ]] [[3056\|λόγου.]]

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