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	:"Here is the difference between the NKJV's "Abstain from every FORM of evil" and the KJV's "Abstain from every APPEARANCE of evil." The word that is translated differently, 'eidos,' can mean "form, outward appearance," but it also can mean "kind." The NKJV captures both possibilities with "form," while the KJV's rendering limits us to only one of the two possible meanings of the term." (The King James Only Controversy, page 116.)		:"Here is the difference between the NKJV's "Abstain from every FORM of evil" and the KJV's "Abstain from every APPEARANCE of evil." The word that is translated differently, 'eidos,' can mean "form, outward appearance," but it also can mean "kind." The NKJV captures both possibilities with "form," while the KJV's rendering limits us to only one of the two possible meanings of the term." (The King James Only Controversy, page 116.)

	[[James White]] is in error here, as the NKJV's "form" is the one that actually limits it to that which is actually evil, while the KJV reading of "appearance" refers to that which may not be evil in itself, but it can ''appear'' to be so to others and cause them to stumble in some way. The NKJV does not "''capture both possibilities''" as White claimed at all. The meaning of the [[NKJV]] and [[KJV]] are not synonymous here.		[[James White]] is in error here, as the NKJV's "form" is the one that actually limits it to that which is actually evil, while the KJV reading of "appearance" refers to that which may not be evil in itself, but it can ''appear'' to be so to others and cause them to stumble in some way. The NKJV does not "''capture both possibilities''" as White claimed at all. The meaning of the [[NKJV]] and [[KJV]] are not synonymous here. Daniel Wallace has also written an erroneous article on this topic. [http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2014/02/avoid-every-appearance-of-evil-3/ ]

	Not being a textual variant issue, but a translation issue, understanding the Greek definition helps clear up this issue. The Greek word for “appearance” (or form) is the same - ειδους. This word idos is only found 5 times in the New Testament and it comes from the verb “to see”. So the basic meaning of the word has to do with “that which is seen”. In the KJV has:		Not being a textual variant issue, but a translation issue, understanding the Greek definition helps clear up this issue. The Greek word for “appearance” (or form) is the same - ειδους. This word idos is only found 5 times in the New Testament and it comes from the verb “to see”. So the basic meaning of the word has to do with “that which is seen”. In the KJV has:

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	:2016 “Abstain from every <u>'''appearance'''</u> of evil.” (KJV 2016)		:2016 “Abstain from every <u>'''appearance'''</u> of evil.” (KJV 2016)

	The NKJV says we should abstain from every <u>'''form'''</u> (or <u>'''kind''</u>) of evil. With this rendering, the thing has to be evil itself and not just have the “appearance” of evil.		The NKJV says we should abstain from every <u>'''form'''</u> (or <u>'''kind'''</u>) of evil. With this rendering, the thing has to be evil itself and not just have the “appearance” of evil.

	Concerning this, [[James White]] says:		Concerning this, [[James White]] says:

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	==Commentary==		==Commentary==
	There is a translational difference in many modern versions in comparison to the KJV. This is even seen among TR based bibles:		There is a translational difference in many modern versions in comparison to the KJV. This is even seen among TR based bibles:

	:1900 “Abstain from all <u>'''appearance'''</u> of evil.” (KJV 1900)		:1900 “Abstain from all <u>'''appearance'''</u> of evil.” (KJV 1900)
	:1982 “ Abstain from every <u>'''form'''</u> of evil.” (NKJV 1982)		:1982 “ Abstain from every <u>'''form'''</u> of evil.” (NKJV 1982)
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	:"Here is the difference between the NKJV's "Abstain from every FORM of evil" and the KJV's "Abstain from every APPEARANCE of evil." The word that is translated differently, 'eidos,' can mean "form, outward appearance," but it also can mean "kind." The NKJV captures both possibilities with "form," while the KJV's rendering limits us to only one of the two possible meanings of the term." (The King James Only Controversy, page 116.)		:"Here is the difference between the NKJV's "Abstain from every FORM of evil" and the KJV's "Abstain from every APPEARANCE of evil." The word that is translated differently, 'eidos,' can mean "form, outward appearance," but it also can mean "kind." The NKJV captures both possibilities with "form," while the KJV's rendering limits us to only one of the two possible meanings of the term." (The King James Only Controversy, page 116.)

	[[James White is in error here, as the NKJV's "form" is the one that actually limits it to that which is actually evil, while the KJV reading of "appearance" refers to that which may not be evil in itself, but it can ''appear'' to be so to others and cause them to stumble in some way. The NKJV does not "''capture both possibilities''" as White claimed at all. The meaning of the [[NKJV]] and [[KJV]] are not synonymous here.		[[James White]] is in error here, as the NKJV's "form" is the one that actually limits it to that which is actually evil, while the KJV reading of "appearance" refers to that which may not be evil in itself, but it can ''appear'' to be so to others and cause them to stumble in some way. The NKJV does not "''capture both possibilities''" as White claimed at all. The meaning of the [[NKJV]] and [[KJV]] are not synonymous here.

	Not being a textual variant issue, but a translation issue, understanding the Greek definition helps clear up this issue. The Greek word for “appearance” (or form) is the same - ειδους. This word idos is only found 5 times in the New Testament and it comes from the verb “to see”. So the basic meaning of the word has to do with “that which is seen”. In the KJV has:		Not being a textual variant issue, but a translation issue, understanding the Greek definition helps clear up this issue. The Greek word for “appearance” (or form) is the same - ειδους. This word idos is only found 5 times in the New Testament and it comes from the verb “to see”. So the basic meaning of the word has to do with “that which is seen”. In the KJV has:

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	Not being a textual variant issue, but a translation issue, understanding the Greek definition helps clear up this issue. The Greek word for “appearance” (or form) is the same - ειδους. This word idos is only found 5 times in the New Testament and it comes from the verb “to see”. So the basic meaning of the word has to do with “that which is seen”. In the KJV has:		Not being a textual variant issue, but a translation issue, understanding the Greek definition helps clear up this issue. The Greek word for “appearance” (or form) is the same - ειδους. This word idos is only found 5 times in the New Testament and it comes from the verb “to see”. So the basic meaning of the word has to do with “that which is seen”. In the KJV has:

	Luke 3:22 - “the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily <u>'''shape'''</u> like a dove”		:[[Luke 3:22]] - “the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily <u>'''shape'''</u> like a dove”
	John 5:37 - “Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his <u>'''shape'''</u>.”		:[[John 5:37]] - “Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his <u>'''shape'''</u>.”
	Luke 9:29 - “And as he prayed, <u>'''the fashion'''</u> of his countenance was altered”.		:[[Luke 9:29]] - “And as he prayed, <u>'''the fashion'''</u> of his countenance was altered”.
	2 Corinthians 5:7 - “For we walk by faith, not by <u>'''sight'''</u>”.		:[[2 Corinthians 5:7]] - “For we walk by faith, not by <u>'''sight'''</u>”.
	1 Thessalonians 5:22 - “Abstain from all <u>'''appearance'''</u> of evil.”		:[[1 Thessalonians 5:22]] - “Abstain from all <u>'''appearance'''</u> of evil.”

	The NASB 1995 that James White and Daniel Wallace worked on reads “Abstain from every <u>'''form'''</u>of evil.” Yet it footnotes “<u>'''or appearance'''</u>”.		The NASB 1995 that James White and Daniel Wallace worked on reads “Abstain from every <u>'''form'''</u> of evil.” Yet it footnotes “<u>'''or appearance'''</u>”.

	Appearance was clearly understood by commentators of the scriptures. Matthew Henry said:		Appearance was clearly understood by commentators of the scriptures. Matthew Henry said:

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	==Commentary==		==Commentary==
			There is a translational difference in many modern versions in comparison to the KJV. This is even seen among TR based bibles:
			:1900 “Abstain from all <u>'''appearance'''</u> of evil.” (KJV 1900)
			:1982 “ Abstain from every <u>'''form'''</u> of evil.” (NKJV 1982)
			:2016 “Abstain from every <u>'''appearance'''</u> of evil.” (KJV 2016)

			The NKJV says we should abstain from every <u>'''form'''</u> (or <u>'''kind''</u>) of evil. With this rendering, the thing has to be evil itself and not just have the “appearance” of evil.

			Concerning this, [[James White]] says:

			:"Here is the difference between the NKJV's "Abstain from every FORM of evil" and the KJV's "Abstain from every APPEARANCE of evil." The word that is translated differently, 'eidos,' can mean "form, outward appearance," but it also can mean "kind." The NKJV captures both possibilities with "form," while the KJV's rendering limits us to only one of the two possible meanings of the term." (The King James Only Controversy, page 116.)

			[[James White is in error here, as the NKJV's "form" is the one that actually limits it to that which is actually evil, while the KJV reading of "appearance" refers to that which may not be evil in itself, but it can ''appear'' to be so to others and cause them to stumble in some way. The NKJV does not "''capture both possibilities''" as White claimed at all. The meaning of the [[NKJV]] and [[KJV]] are not synonymous here.

			Not being a textual variant issue, but a translation issue, understanding the Greek definition helps clear up this issue. The Greek word for “appearance” (or form) is the same - ειδους. This word idos is only found 5 times in the New Testament and it comes from the verb “to see”. So the basic meaning of the word has to do with “that which is seen”. In the KJV has:

			Luke 3:22 - “the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily <u>'''shape'''</u> like a dove”
			John 5:37 - “Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his <u>'''shape'''</u>.”
			Luke 9:29 - “And as he prayed, <u>'''the fashion'''</u> of his countenance was altered”.
			2 Corinthians 5:7 - “For we walk by faith, not by <u>'''sight'''</u>”.
			1 Thessalonians 5:22 - “Abstain from all <u>'''appearance'''</u> of evil.”

			The NASB 1995 that James White and Daniel Wallace worked on reads “Abstain from every <u>'''form'''</u>of evil.” Yet it footnotes “<u>'''or appearance'''</u>”.

			Appearance was clearly understood by commentators of the scriptures. Matthew Henry said:
			:We should therefore abstain from evil, and all appearances of evil, from sin, and that which looks like sin, leads to it, and borders upon it. He who is not shy of the appearances of sin, who shuns not the occasions of sin, and who avoids not the temptations and approaches to sin, will not long abstain from the actual commission of sin.

			John Gill said:
			:Abstain from all appearance of evil. Of doctrinal evil. Not only open error and heresy are to be avoided, but what has any show of it, or looks like it, or carries in it a suspicion of it, or may be an occasion thereof, or lead unto it; wherefore all new words and phrases of this kind should be shunned, and the form of sound words held fast”

			Adam Clarke has:
			:Abstain from all appearance of evil - Sin not, and avoid even the appearance of it. Do not drive your morality so near the bounds of evil as to lead even weak persons to believe that ye actually touch, taste, or handle it. Let not the form of it, ειδος, appear with or among you, much less the substance.

			Matthew Poole’s Annotations says:
			:as in worship to abstain from the show of idolatry; as to eat meat in an idol’s temple was not always gross idolatry, but had some appearance of it, and therefore the apostle forbids it, 1 Corinthians 10:14.

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	*'''[[1 Thessalonians 5:22 ~~(TRV)~~\|1 Thessalonians 5:22]]''' Abstain from every appearance of evil.		*'''[[1 Thessalonians 5:22 King James Version 2016\|1 Thessalonians 5:22]]''' Abstain from every appearance of evil.

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	*'''[[1 Thessalonians 5:22 (TRV)\|1 Thessalonians 5:22]]'''		*'''[[1 Thessalonians 5:22 (TRV)\|1 Thessalonians 5:22]]''' Abstain from every appearance of evil.

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